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A STATEMENT FROM NEUROSIS
We cannot overstate the level of disgust and disappointment we feel for a man who we once called Brother.
As a band, we parted ways with Scott Kelly at the end of 2019 after learning about severe acts of abuse he committed towards his family over the previous years. In the past, Scott had disclosed his marital difficulties and acts of verbal abuse, as well as his intention to get help and change his behaviors. The information we learned in 2019 made it clear Scott had crossed a line and there was no way back. We did not share this information out of respect for his wife’s direct request for privacy, and to honor the family’s wish not to let their experience become gossip in a music magazine. With Scott’s Facebook post of August 27, 2022 disclosing much of this information publicly, we can finally say what we believe needs to be said.
For the last twenty years we have lived far apart from one another and only saw Scott when meeting up to work on music or play shows. We had no idea what the reality was for his family when we were not around. By Scott's own admission, his abuse was intentional, targeted, and a closely guarded secret - even from those of us closest to him.
Once we learned of his abuse it was difficult to reconcile the horrible information with the person we thought we knew. It’s not surprising he hid the abuse for so long because it is a betrayal of our ethics as bandmates, partners, parents, and human beings.
Since 2019, we have made numerous attempts to contact Scott. We wanted to have an honest talk about the status of the band and find out how he and his family were doing, but he has refused to speak with us for three years. And, in what we now see clearly to be a pattern, Scott refused to take responsibility for his actions. Having been through so much with someone for more than 35 years, one would expect some amount of closure, or at the very least a response.
Now, without returning any of the calls, texts, or e-mails of his bandmates and friends, Scott has made a public post about the situation. To us, this decision seems like another attempt at manipulation, another opportunity for his narcissism to control the narrative. Don't allow Scott to make this about himself, it's about the abuse his family has suffered.
Usually, we would view public openness and honesty about mental illness as brave and even productive. We just don’t believe that is the case here.
There is nothing brave about systematically abusing your wife and children.
There is nothing brave about confessing wrongdoing when you have not done the work to change your behavior.
There is nothing brave about refusing to speak honestly, or speak at all, with one’s closest friends and bandmates, people who have supported you and stuck by you for most of your life.
Compared to the impact of Scott’s actions on his family, the impact on our band pales in significance. Nevertheless, with the heartbreak and horror we also grieve for the loss of our life’s work and a legacy that was sacred to us.
Again, our primary concern is for the safety and well-being of Scott’s wife and children, as well as anyone else in a similar situation. If someone you know is experiencing domestic violence or abuse, please reach out to one of the many local or national resources available. One national resource is:
National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-7233 www.thehotline.org
If you or someone you know is suffering from mental health issues that could make you a danger to yourself or others, please get help before you hurt yourself or the people you love. One resource for that is:
www.988lifeline.org
This is the only statement we plan to make about this issue. In due course, when it's appropriate, we will provide more information about our future musical endeavors, but that time is not now.
Daran könnten sich einige Bands ein Beispiel nehmen.Blackstar hat geschrieben: ↑Mo 29. Aug 2022, 15:51A STATEMENT FROM NEUROSIS
We cannot overstate the level of disgust and disappointment we feel for a man who we once called Brother.
As a band, we parted ways with Scott Kelly at the end of 2019 after learning about severe acts of abuse he committed towards his family over the previous years. In the past, Scott had disclosed his marital difficulties and acts of verbal abuse, as well as his intention to get help and change his behaviors. The information we learned in 2019 made it clear Scott had crossed a line and there was no way back. We did not share this information out of respect for his wife’s direct request for privacy, and to honor the family’s wish not to let their experience become gossip in a music magazine. With Scott’s Facebook post of August 27, 2022 disclosing much of this information publicly, we can finally say what we believe needs to be said.
For the last twenty years we have lived far apart from one another and only saw Scott when meeting up to work on music or play shows. We had no idea what the reality was for his family when we were not around. By Scott's own admission, his abuse was intentional, targeted, and a closely guarded secret - even from those of us closest to him.
Once we learned of his abuse it was difficult to reconcile the horrible information with the person we thought we knew. It’s not surprising he hid the abuse for so long because it is a betrayal of our ethics as bandmates, partners, parents, and human beings.
Since 2019, we have made numerous attempts to contact Scott. We wanted to have an honest talk about the status of the band and find out how he and his family were doing, but he has refused to speak with us for three years. And, in what we now see clearly to be a pattern, Scott refused to take responsibility for his actions. Having been through so much with someone for more than 35 years, one would expect some amount of closure, or at the very least a response.
Now, without returning any of the calls, texts, or e-mails of his bandmates and friends, Scott has made a public post about the situation. To us, this decision seems like another attempt at manipulation, another opportunity for his narcissism to control the narrative. Don't allow Scott to make this about himself, it's about the abuse his family has suffered.
Usually, we would view public openness and honesty about mental illness as brave and even productive. We just don’t believe that is the case here.
There is nothing brave about systematically abusing your wife and children.
There is nothing brave about confessing wrongdoing when you have not done the work to change your behavior.
There is nothing brave about refusing to speak honestly, or speak at all, with one’s closest friends and bandmates, people who have supported you and stuck by you for most of your life.
Compared to the impact of Scott’s actions on his family, the impact on our band pales in significance. Nevertheless, with the heartbreak and horror we also grieve for the loss of our life’s work and a legacy that was sacred to us.
Again, our primary concern is for the safety and well-being of Scott’s wife and children, as well as anyone else in a similar situation. If someone you know is experiencing domestic violence or abuse, please reach out to one of the many local or national resources available. One national resource is:
National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-7233 www.thehotline.org
If you or someone you know is suffering from mental health issues that could make you a danger to yourself or others, please get help before you hurt yourself or the people you love. One resource for that is:
www.988lifeline.org
This is the only statement we plan to make about this issue. In due course, when it's appropriate, we will provide more information about our future musical endeavors, but that time is not now.
Ob die die Tour durchziehen?SammyJankis hat geschrieben: ↑Do 1. Sep 2022, 19:39Feist hat die Tour als Support von Arcade Fire gecancelt.
Dear All,
It is with absolute sadness that we need to communicate that the WMD festival (9 till 11 December) is officially cancelled.
The recent moratorium of our ticketingprovider Festicket - started in August - has left our company with a lack of income which leaves us in the incapacity to organize a festival the size (and to the standards) of WMD.
All tickets sold as of 2020 will be refunded before the end of the year. To request a refund please send a copy of your E-ticket to support@w-productions.be
We would have been honored to organize WMD for the fans, the conditions the moratorium of Festicket have put our company under sadly decided otherwise.
Best regards,
Waregemse Metal Days
So krass wie nachvollziehbar. Vielleicht kann man in dem Gefolge aber auch fragen, ob nicht einfach zu viel los war die letzten Jahre pre-Covid: zu viele Hypes, zu viele neue Alben, zu viele Festivals. Es war schön für die ganzen kleinen Künstler*innen, die davon profitierten und für uns, die wir jede Menge Abwechslung brauchen in unseren Gehörgängen. Aber vielleicht auch einfach ein bisschen zu ungesund, zu viel, zu sehr Hamsterrad. Nur so ein Gedanke, dem ich noch nicht 100 pro nachgespürt habe. Was denkt ihr?
Interessant, ich hätte das genau gegenteilig eingeschätzt wegen der weit niedrigeren Hürde für einen selbstgestalteten Vertrieb über Bandcamp o.ä. (oder zielt darauf dein nachgeschobener Nebensatz ab?, den habe ich nicht verstanden). Damit erreichst du natürlich keine großen Massen (im Gegensatz zum Nadelöhr Spotify), das stimmt. Aber du hattest ja über die Breite gesprochen, nicht die Spitze (oder die Breite in der Spitze, haha).Quadrophobia hat geschrieben: ↑Di 27. Sep 2022, 14:02Ehrlich gesagt empfinde ich die Entwicklung gegenteilig. Viele Festivals sind zunehmend Einheitsbrei, dank Spotify Playlists, Algorithmen und TikTok-Optimierung hat sich die Breite in der Musikwelt eher verkleinert, wenn man als Maßstab nimmt, dass die Acts sich selbst finanzieren.
Ja, das Thema hatten wir hier neulich im Konzert-Thread.
Ätzendes System!Wishkah hat geschrieben: ↑Fr 7. Okt 2022, 07:34Ich bin ja zum Glück nicht allzu oft davon betroffen, aber dieses Ticketmaster-System bei Großveranstaltungen macht mich echt wütend, deshalb gleich noch ein Beitrag hinterher:
Zuletzt zum Beispiel bei Bruce Springsteen, Coldplay und Kendrick Lamar erlebt, jetzt ganz aktuell wieder bei Depeche Mode. Tickets für eine Veranstaltung (von den verschiedenen exklusiven PayPal-/Magenta-/Eventim-/Ticketmaster-/etc.-Presale-Starts muss ich gar nicht anfangen...) gehen in den Vorverkauf. Die Nachfrage ist sehr groß und kurze Zeit später erweckt Ticketmaster den Eindruck, dass keine Tickets mehr verfügbar sind. Der Saalplan ist komplett abgegriffen.
Einen Tag später dann die Überraschung: In so ziemlich allen Preiskategorien (inklusive FOS 1, FOS 2 und den besten Unterrang-Sitzplätzen) sind wieder massig (!) Tickets verfügbar. Nur diesmal als sogenannte Platintickets, die preisvariabel sind und sich laut Ticketmaster nach der Nachfrage richten. Das führt dazu, dass jetzt zum Beispiel so ein FOS-Ticket statt etwa 150€ aktuell etwa 370€ (!) kostet - mehr als doppelt so viel wie ursprünglich. Und wie gesagt: Es geht nicht um einige wenige Sonderplätze, sondern um einen wirklich großen Teil der regulären Tickets.
Immerhin schreibt Ticketmaster dazu, dass es sich bei Platintickets (trotz des aufgehübschten Namens) nicht um besondere Tickets handelt und keine speziellen Leistungen enthalten sind*.![]()
Dieses System ist wirklich richtig ätzend.![]()
*Konkret schreibt Ticketmaster:Platin Tickets variieren im Preis. Die dynamische Preisgestaltung (vergleichbar mit der von Flug- oder Hotelbuchungen) ermöglicht den Fans, bis kurz vor ihren Lieblingsevents Tickets im offiziellen Vorverkauf zu erwerben. Platin Tickets sind keine VIP-Packages und enthalten keine Zusatzleistungen.
Und wegen der Pleite von FTX werden jetzt Tom Brady, Larry David, Naomi Osaka und die Golden State Warriors verklagt, die für den Laden die Werbetrommel gerührt haben. Irre.Quadrophobia hat geschrieben: ↑Do 17. Nov 2022, 20:19Die vom Coachella verkauften Life-time Attendency NFTs sind aufgrund der Pleite der Cryptobörse FTX für die Besitzer*innen nicht mehr abgreifbar![]()
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